Public Hearing for Proposed DDOT Service Changes Effective January 22, 2024
Detroit Department of Transportation
Transportation
Thursday, Nov. 16, 2023
5:00 p.m. — 8:00 p.m. EST
Location unavailable
9-Jefferson: Improve daytime frequency to 10 minutes on weekdays, 15 minutes on weekends
16-Dexter: Improve/restore daytime frequency to 20 minutes on weekdays
18-Fenkell: Begin 45 minute frequency at the start of weekday service rather than after 8:00 am
Add peak-period supplemental trips on several routes including: 3, 7, 13, 15, 19, 27, 60, 67
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Reporting
Edited and summarized by the Detroit - MI Documenters Team
Live reporting by
Ashley Williams
Proposed DDOT service changes are met with skepticism due to lack of bus drivers and failure to meet current bus route timing.
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02:41 PM Nov 16, 2023 CST
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@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Back with #DETdocumenters! About to begin.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit This is what is being discussed tonight:
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit FYIs for today's meeting.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Tonight's meeting will cover details for the proposed changes and allow for feedback on the proposal.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Daytime frequency would increase to every 10 minutes (currently 15) on weekdays and 15 minutes (currently 30) on weekends for the 9 Jefferson route is the proposal.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Proposed design & layout - this would allow buses to stay in the lane, and not have to dodge traffic. This would allow for quicker pick ups/drop offs.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Bus stop consolidations are also part of this plan - 1/4 mile spacing proposed.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Currenlty the 16 runs every 22 minutes. This would be a 2 minute improvement. The 18 currently starts at 1-hour frequency, but would be movnig to a 45 min frequency all day.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit The meeting is now open for public comment. Verbal comments tonight will be recorded in public record. Comments not made tonight can be emailed to ddotcomments@detroitmi.gov by Dec 15.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #1: Says changes are encouraging, but want DDOT to continue to be vocal/transparent about changes. Says Dexter and Jefferson changes are helpful, but Fenkell bus isn't timely anyway. Says he doesn't know how they can promise these timings when short drivers.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #2: In agreement with previous commenter. Not enough drivers, is this a good time to promise this? How is this possible?
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #3: Resident of Farmington Hills and regular DDOT rider; support for these service improvements. Concerned about peak period additional trips, saying it is vague language - When? How many? May be better to priortize basic amenties, ie. lack of benches/shelters on Greenfield.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #4: Support of improvements, but share concerns of other commenters. Important to prioritize reliability - what is being promised needs to be delivered, and that requires more drivers. Maryland stop is a big transfer point between DDOT/SMART - would like to see stop maintained.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #5: With Transit Justice Team; winter is approaching and we don't have enough shelters protecting ADA/student riders as is. If this is able to be accomplished, it would be greatly appreciated. Other routes need updating too.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #6: Handicap individial that uses an electric wheelchair; uses DDOT services frequently. Issues with drivers saying the bus is too full when visibly not, and equipment isn't working properly. Missed 6 appointments in 2023 due to drivers not being willing to pick him up.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #7: Agree with other commenters, really excited about "service changes" and being positive. Concerned about DDOT's ability to make these changes a reality. Says there are really chronic problems with servicing wheelchair users.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #8: Sorry to the wheelchair user. Changes seem like a lot of resources going into Jefferson, and would like to see more done to the routes that go through neighborhoods.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #9: Are you going to increase service for Dexter or decrease?
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit #10: What about all the other buses? Sometimes rides other bus routes.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit That rounds up public comment. Comments may also be submitted by Dec 15: Email: DDOTcomments@detroitmi.gov Mail: Detroit Department of Transportation ATTN: Jan 2024 Hearing 100 Mack Ave., Detroit, MI 48201
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Dexter proposal would be an improvement, per Steve Patrinick. https://x.com/williams_ashsue/status/1725281996992114830?s=20
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit Patrinick also shared in chat that supplemental trips don't change base frequncy, but they add a single trip in between two other trips.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit No community input meeting in December. Will resume in January.
@DetDocumenters @BridgeDet313 @chalkbeatDET @freep @metrotimes @MichiganRadio @media_outlier @PlanetDetroit @wdet @wxyzdetroit The meeting was adjourned at 5:44 p.m. For more, visit . detroit.documenters.org
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Detroit Department of Transportation
The Detroit Department of Transportation (DDOT) is the largest public transit provider in Michigan that serves the City of Detroit, surrounding suburbs, and neighboring cities, including Highland Park and Hamtramck. DDOT prides itself on providing reliable, clean, safe, and efficient service.
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